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		<title>By: Linkage is Good for You: Spectacular Edition (NSFW)</title>
		<link>http://declineofgenius.com/my-life/israel-is-a-police-state-21072010/#comment-451</link>
		<dc:creator>Linkage is Good for You: Spectacular Edition (NSFW)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jul 2010 10:28:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Genius &#8211; &#8220;9 Av&#8220;, &#8220;Lady Gaga &amp; Gene Weingarten Are Secret Lovers&#8220;, &#8220;31 Year Old Girls Are Not Hot&#8220;, &#8220;Israel is a Police State&#8221; [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Genius</title>
		<link>http://declineofgenius.com/my-life/israel-is-a-police-state-21072010/#comment-441</link>
		<dc:creator>Genius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jul 2010 10:16:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This reminds me of IHTG&#039;s suggestion that I read Chesterton&#039;s &quot;The Man Who Was Thursday.&quot; I will definitely pick it up on my next trip to America.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This reminds me of IHTG&#8217;s suggestion that I read Chesterton&#8217;s &#8220;The Man Who Was Thursday.&#8221; I will definitely pick it up on my next trip to America.</p>
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		<title>By: Will S.</title>
		<link>http://declineofgenius.com/my-life/israel-is-a-police-state-21072010/#comment-438</link>
		<dc:creator>Will S.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jul 2010 04:03:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hadn&#039;t heard that Yigal Amir had been egged on by someone who turned out to be a Shin Bet agent.  Interesting!  And most disturbing.

Here in Canada, back in the 90s, the RCMP had an undercover agent infiltrate a neo-Nazi organization; this guy, Grant Bristow, then proceeded to infiltrate a right-wing political party, the Reform Party of Canada, with the intent of forging links between neo-Nazism and this new political party, which was seen by everyone else - the Liberals, the Conservatives, and the NDP (socialists), as well as the Quebec separatists (the Bloc Quebecois), as an unacceptable threat to the political status quo.  So we had a police officer trying to increase the influence of neo-Nazism, in an effort to discredit a populist political party hated by the rest of the political establishment.  Chilling, eh?

It gets worse; it has come to light that there have been quite a few undercover agents infiltrating neo-Nazism, and not too unsurprisingly, some of the most vocal voices on neo-Nazi internet forums have turned out to be such undercover agents.  And guess what?  Half the time, the left hand conveniently didn&#039;t know what the right was doing, and vice versa, so it would seem that there were agents reporting on the alarming growth of neo-Nazism&#039;s influence in Canada, esp. online, who were merely observing and reporting on each other.  How convenient.

Modern government is the enemy of the people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hadn&#8217;t heard that Yigal Amir had been egged on by someone who turned out to be a Shin Bet agent.  Interesting!  And most disturbing.</p>
<p>Here in Canada, back in the 90s, the RCMP had an undercover agent infiltrate a neo-Nazi organization; this guy, Grant Bristow, then proceeded to infiltrate a right-wing political party, the Reform Party of Canada, with the intent of forging links between neo-Nazism and this new political party, which was seen by everyone else &#8211; the Liberals, the Conservatives, and the NDP (socialists), as well as the Quebec separatists (the Bloc Quebecois), as an unacceptable threat to the political status quo.  So we had a police officer trying to increase the influence of neo-Nazism, in an effort to discredit a populist political party hated by the rest of the political establishment.  Chilling, eh?</p>
<p>It gets worse; it has come to light that there have been quite a few undercover agents infiltrating neo-Nazism, and not too unsurprisingly, some of the most vocal voices on neo-Nazi internet forums have turned out to be such undercover agents.  And guess what?  Half the time, the left hand conveniently didn&#8217;t know what the right was doing, and vice versa, so it would seem that there were agents reporting on the alarming growth of neo-Nazism&#8217;s influence in Canada, esp. online, who were merely observing and reporting on each other.  How convenient.</p>
<p>Modern government is the enemy of the people.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Doane</title>
		<link>http://declineofgenius.com/my-life/israel-is-a-police-state-21072010/#comment-437</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Doane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jul 2010 17:37:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love sarcasm.</description>
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		<title>By: Genius</title>
		<link>http://declineofgenius.com/my-life/israel-is-a-police-state-21072010/#comment-435</link>
		<dc:creator>Genius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jul 2010 07:08:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s unthinkable. It could never happen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s unthinkable. It could never happen.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Doane</title>
		<link>http://declineofgenius.com/my-life/israel-is-a-police-state-21072010/#comment-433</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Doane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jul 2010 15:36:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Although the best option for everyone is an orderly transfer, your only option may be to just let Jewish anger boil into a pogrom.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Although the best option for everyone is an orderly transfer, your only option may be to just let Jewish anger boil into a pogrom.</p>
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		<title>By: Genius</title>
		<link>http://declineofgenius.com/my-life/israel-is-a-police-state-21072010/#comment-427</link>
		<dc:creator>Genius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jul 2010 14:47:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;My belief is that before Israel can ever do this, some European country will have to do it first (no doubt as a result of scary demographic realities).&lt;/em&gt;

In 2010 terms, sure. But there are a lot of things that could happen to overturn what we currently think is immutable.

&lt;em&gt;In the early 2000′s it was easy to believe that one day the Arabs would get crazy and violent enough that we could justifiably kick them out, but these days it seems all the crazies have been concentrated in Gaza.&lt;/em&gt;

And yet, nobody believes that what we saw eight and nine years ago was the limit of what they&#039;re capable of showing us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>My belief is that before Israel can ever do this, some European country will have to do it first (no doubt as a result of scary demographic realities).</em></p>
<p>In 2010 terms, sure. But there are a lot of things that could happen to overturn what we currently think is immutable.</p>
<p><em>In the early 2000′s it was easy to believe that one day the Arabs would get crazy and violent enough that we could justifiably kick them out, but these days it seems all the crazies have been concentrated in Gaza.</em></p>
<p>And yet, nobody believes that what we saw eight and nine years ago was the limit of what they&#8217;re capable of showing us.</p>
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		<title>By: IHTG</title>
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		<dc:creator>IHTG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jul 2010 12:02:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re: Expellment of Muslims
My belief is that before Israel can ever do this, some European country will have to do it first (no doubt as a result of scary demographic realities).

In the early 2000&#039;s it was easy to believe that one day the Arabs would get crazy and violent enough that we could justifiably kick them out, but these days it seems all the crazies have been concentrated in Gaza.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: Expellment of Muslims<br />
My belief is that before Israel can ever do this, some European country will have to do it first (no doubt as a result of scary demographic realities).</p>
<p>In the early 2000&#8242;s it was easy to believe that one day the Arabs would get crazy and violent enough that we could justifiably kick them out, but these days it seems all the crazies have been concentrated in Gaza.</p>
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		<title>By: Genius</title>
		<link>http://declineofgenius.com/my-life/israel-is-a-police-state-21072010/#comment-422</link>
		<dc:creator>Genius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jul 2010 11:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;I wonder if the Shabak’s “Jewish Department” actually concerns itself with any other Jews other than those connected to settlers. Maybe a more accurate name would be the “Settler Department”.&lt;/em&gt;

Whenever I hear the term &quot;Jewish Department,&quot; I always think of Yevsektsiya.

&lt;em&gt;It seems to me that if if there was some low-level organization of pissed-off Jewish boys from Akko or Lod to stab Arabs and burn down mosques, this would totally fly under the Shabak’s radar.&lt;/em&gt;

They would miss it entirely, but… there&#039;s never going to be an organization of Akko or Lod Jewish boys to do things like that. They&#039;re not interested in changing the rules of the game - they just respond to hoodlum type behavior from their Muslim neighbors with some hoodlum type behavior of their own. The intellectual elite among them often do get sent to higher end yeshivot, marry well and end up in some of the more radical settlements, but then they involve themselves in matters of larger importance.

At any rate, if a little gang of Jews from Lod or Akko stabs some Arabs and burns a mosque, the state is adequately equipped to prosecute them and send them to prison for a very long time - because there&#039;s no real ideological motive. If the state were to face the exact same crimes committed as part of a rational plan to intimidate a local population of Arabs out of an ideology of expelling them from the region or the country, it would quickly become apparent that the majority of Jews would support such a notion, and consequently the Shabak is tasked with making sure it never, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever happens.

By the way, although I support expelling the Muslim population from Israel, I also think it should be done in a way that&#039;s organized and as civil as possible. I don&#039;t think any people or property should be harmed in the process. I&#039;d like to see the military, police and courts prepare for it as well as they prepared for Expulsion 2005.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>I wonder if the Shabak’s “Jewish Department” actually concerns itself with any other Jews other than those connected to settlers. Maybe a more accurate name would be the “Settler Department”.</em></p>
<p>Whenever I hear the term &#8220;Jewish Department,&#8221; I always think of Yevsektsiya.</p>
<p><em>It seems to me that if if there was some low-level organization of pissed-off Jewish boys from Akko or Lod to stab Arabs and burn down mosques, this would totally fly under the Shabak’s radar.</em></p>
<p>They would miss it entirely, but… there&#8217;s never going to be an organization of Akko or Lod Jewish boys to do things like that. They&#8217;re not interested in changing the rules of the game &#8211; they just respond to hoodlum type behavior from their Muslim neighbors with some hoodlum type behavior of their own. The intellectual elite among them often do get sent to higher end yeshivot, marry well and end up in some of the more radical settlements, but then they involve themselves in matters of larger importance.</p>
<p>At any rate, if a little gang of Jews from Lod or Akko stabs some Arabs and burns a mosque, the state is adequately equipped to prosecute them and send them to prison for a very long time &#8211; because there&#8217;s no real ideological motive. If the state were to face the exact same crimes committed as part of a rational plan to intimidate a local population of Arabs out of an ideology of expelling them from the region or the country, it would quickly become apparent that the majority of Jews would support such a notion, and consequently the Shabak is tasked with making sure it never, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever happens.</p>
<p>By the way, although I support expelling the Muslim population from Israel, I also think it should be done in a way that&#8217;s organized and as civil as possible. I don&#8217;t think any people or property should be harmed in the process. I&#8217;d like to see the military, police and courts prepare for it as well as they prepared for Expulsion 2005.</p>
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		<title>By: IHTG</title>
		<link>http://declineofgenius.com/my-life/israel-is-a-police-state-21072010/#comment-421</link>
		<dc:creator>IHTG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jul 2010 11:23:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder if the Shabak&#039;s &quot;Jewish Department&quot; actually concerns itself with any other Jews other than those connected to settlers. Maybe a more accurate name would be the &quot;Settler Department&quot;.

It seems to me that if if there was some low-level organization of pissed-off Jewish boys from Akko or Lod to stab Arabs and burn down mosques, this would totally fly under the Shabak&#039;s radar.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder if the Shabak&#8217;s &#8220;Jewish Department&#8221; actually concerns itself with any other Jews other than those connected to settlers. Maybe a more accurate name would be the &#8220;Settler Department&#8221;.</p>
<p>It seems to me that if if there was some low-level organization of pissed-off Jewish boys from Akko or Lod to stab Arabs and burn down mosques, this would totally fly under the Shabak&#8217;s radar.</p>
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