Half Sigma has written a couple posts in the past few days proclaiming that President Obama is not only not a Muslim, but that he’s not a Christian either:
I know he doesn’t claim that all his ideas are original, but I was saying that Obama is not a Christian for a very long time before I heard anyone else saying it. Here is something I wrote in an off-the-record email to a journalist friend in April 2008, half a year before Obama was elected president:
Much more interesting than whether or not he’s really a Muslim is whether or not he’s really a Christian – or whether he sort of experienced a convenient conversion right at the time he was getting involved in community politics in Chicago and needed to ingratiate himself with the black community there. Oh well, I’m sure this will be played out in excruciating detail over the next however many months remain [in the presidential campaign].
Is anyone on the record as questioning whether Obama is really a Christian from earlier than April 2008?
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Vox Day seems to promote the idea Obama is gay, which I’m not sure I believe, but I like the smear.
http://voxday.blogspot.com/2010/06/obama-and-gay-old-party.html
Hell, given that Obama isn’t either a Christian or a Muslim, but pretends to be either when it suits him, depending on the audience, why mightn’t he also pretend to be gay, amongst gays? Coming soon: a long-lost Cherokee ancestor, so Obama can pretend to be native, too.
Wasn’t there some leading Nazi who, it was discovered, was partially descended from Cherokees, and then the Nazi ideology machine had to produce a myth about the Cherokees specifically being a lost Aryan tribe so that this guy could still be an Aryan? Man, I wish I could remember the details of this story now.
But it often seems that most white Americans whose ancestors were in the country before 1880 have that Cherokee ancestor, so I actually wouldn’t be surprised at all of Obama does also.
Yeah, I suppose that’s likely enough.
I hadn’t heard that about any Nazis, but if any had American ancestry, that would be possible, too. The Cherokees were so civilized, they bought and owned slaves, and fought for the Confederacy, a fact that progressives would rather not draw attention to, no doubt, since it doesn’t fit their “all non-white, good; all white, bad” narrative. A few years back, there was some Klansman who, under a pseudonym, wrote children’s stories with an Amerindian flavour and theme to them, who was unmasked, and shocked many; I wish I could remember his name, but it slips my mind.
Funny how Afrikaners tend to all have a bit of African ancestry, not to mention some Malay, yet throughout the apartheid years, liked to proclaim their racial purity. Right…
It’s funny that this is even an issue, because Obama did discuss it in his book:
http://spectator.org/archives/2008/05/07/the-audacity-of-what/print
If the Republicans had more balls, they could have nailed Obama on this; in America, a politician is supposed to give more lip service than Obama has rendered, to having faith. They could have crushed him on it, or at least, prevented his victory from being as large.
A few years back, there was some Klansman who, under a pseudonym, wrote children’s stories with an Amerindian flavour and theme to them, who was unmasked, and shocked many; I wish I could remember his name, but it slips my mind.
That would be Daniel Carver. What a story!
Funny how Afrikaners tend to all have a bit of African ancestry, not to mention some Malay, yet throughout the apartheid years, liked to proclaim their racial purity. Right…
Part-black Afrikaners? If they’re part black and part Malay, aren’t they just Colored?
If the Republicans had more balls, they could have nailed Obama on this; in America, a politician is supposed to give more lip service than Obama has rendered, to having faith.
But questioning another person’s faith is unthinkable.
“Part-black Afrikaners? If they’re part black and part Malay, aren’t they just Colored?”
I mean the Afrikaner majority, who are said to be something like 7% black, and who knows how little Malay, but my point being, they can’t call themselves pure, of course, and it’s foolish, and obviously unfair, for them to classify other Afrikaners who have more black and other ancestry as Coloured, thus effectively removing them from being considered fellow Afrikaners, even if that’s their language, and they’re of Dutch Reformed faith, etc.
“That would be Daniel Carver. What a story!”
Actually, I remember now, it’s Asa Earl Carter.
Daniel Carver seems to be an interesting story, indeed; I just read he was a regular Howard Stern guest (I never listened to that show).
“But questioning another person’s faith is unthinkable.”
Yes, in American politics, that seems to be the rule.
Actually, I remember now, it’s Asa Earl Carter.
Daniel Carver seems to be an interesting story, indeed; I just read he was a regular Howard Stern guest (I never listened to that show).
Oh yeah! I hilariously conflated in my memory the two KKK members I knew by name! I used to listen to Howard Stern 13-14 years ago and he’d have this guy come on and do movie reviews – it was one of the only genuinely funny things on the show.
I mean the Afrikaner majority, who are said to be something like 7% black, and who knows how little Malay, but my point being, they can’t call themselves pure, of course, and it’s foolish, and obviously unfair, for them to classify other Afrikaners who have more black and other ancestry as Coloured, thus effectively removing them from being considered fellow Afrikaners, even if that’s their language, and they’re of Dutch Reformed faith, etc.
The one-drop rule really is unique to the American experience; in some interesting ways, South Africans’ concept of race is more fluid. It is fascinating that people who were willing to implement some pretty deep and harsh racial separation were also willing to classify different children of the same parents as members of different races. It seems with them to have been a bit more about physical appearance than for Americans.
He has proven beyond all doubt that he is Muslim. Read his Cairo Speech June 4, 2009 :
Grew up Muslim:
“my father came from a Kenyan family that includes generations of Muslims. As a boy, I spent several years in Indonesia and heard the call of the azaan at the break of dawn and at the fall of dusk. As a young man, I worked in Chicago communities where many found dignity and peace in their Muslim faith.”
Vowed to Protect Islamic faith with his Powers:
“I consider it part of my responsibility as President of the United States to fight against negative stereotypes of Islam wherever they appear”. (Applause.)
He kept that Promise:
“But let me be clear. As a citizen, and as President, I believe that Muslims have the same right to practice their religion as everyone else in this country. And that includes the right to build a place of worship …This is America. And our commitment to religious freedom must be unshakeable. The principle that people of all faiths are welcome in this country and that they will not be treated differently by their government…
This is America’s Government but he is Protecting the ideology of Islamic Muslims not Americans citizens. The NY Americans citizens are still grieving and hurting from ground zero,9/11 attack.And he nor the Islamic Muslims have the right to cause further injury and damage and mental anguish to the Americans.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/06/04/obama-speech-in-cairo-vid_n_211215.html
Grew up Muslim:
“my father came from a Kenyan family that includes generations of Muslims. As a boy, I spent several years in Indonesia and heard the call of the azaan at the break of dawn and at the fall of dusk. As a young man, I worked in Chicago communities where many found dignity and peace in their Muslim faith.”
But his mother came from an American family that included generations of Christians, and as a boy he spent several years in Hawaii and heard church bells on Sundays. As a young man he also spent some time in New York, where many found dignity and peace in their Christian faith. That doesn’t make him a Christian, so what you wrote doesn’t make him a Muslim.
Vowed to Protect Islamic faith with his Powers:
“I consider it part of my responsibility as President of the United States to fight against negative stereotypes of Islam wherever they appear”. (Applause.)
On the face of it, according to the Constitution it is not the responsibility of the president of the United States to comment on “stereotypes” of one group or another. So this proves he is a progressive who doesn’t much care what the Constitution says – not that he’s a Muslim.
He kept that Promise:
“But let me be clear. As a citizen, and as President, I believe that Muslims have the same right to practice their religion as everyone else in this country. And that includes the right to build a place of worship …This is America. And our commitment to religious freedom must be unshakeable. The principle that people of all faiths are welcome in this country and that they will not be treated differently by their government…
Again, this proves that he’s a progressive.
This is America’s Government but he is Protecting the ideology of Islamic Muslims not Americans citizens. The NY Americans citizens are still grieving and hurting from ground zero,9/11 attack.
Oh, come off it. I lived in New York on 11 September 2001, and for a couple years before it and after it. The grieving and hurting for what happened that day lasted less than a year. New Yorkers are uniquely equipped to process the experience and move on.
And he nor the Islamic Muslims have the right to cause further injury and damage and mental anguish to the Americans.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/06/04/obama-speech-in-cairo-vid_n_211215.html
Does anyone have a “right” to injure or damage anyone else?
“It is fascinating that people who were willing to implement some pretty deep and harsh racial separation were also willing to classify different children of the same parents as members of different races. It seems with them to have been a bit more about physical appearance than for Americans.”
Take Calvinist ‘covenant theology’, add 19th century racial views and colonialism, and a dash of British-Israelist-type ideology (though Dutch in their case), and thus the Afrikaner mindset.
It’s funny; their identity is so wrapped up in their superiority complex, that those who become more racially egalitarian end up hating their own people; one Afrikaner immigrant to Canada who I knew once said to me he wished his people would be wiped off the face of the earth!